Curse

Antitorgo · Jan 25, 2008, 07:52 AM // 07:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

I agree with Kerwyn. Start comparing your preupdate to postupdate .dats and tell us what is new. There were definately some stealth updates. Hopefully it wasn't just all online store changes.

Text-wise? Not much, looked like it was mostly some housekeeping. Pretty sure some new textures got added, but I haven't been keeping track of those... Gives me an idea tho.

Longasc · Jan 25, 2008, 08:33 AM // 08:33

How many different GWDatBrowsers are out there actually?

Because mine is rather clumsy - I basically click randomly on things and see a preview window or text pop up. Not really possible to find new stuff with this method.

Seef II · Jan 25, 2008, 09:47 AM // 09:47

There's an English one dated May 29 2007 or thereabouts. I use a Spanish? (I think, I'm pretty ignorant of European languages) one dated sometime in July that's a little better at previewing stuff. The English one's easily obtainable with even minimal Google-fu, and is good enough.

[edit] To find stuff, Longasc, new files tend to be appended to the end of the dat - that's where all of my BMP item icons are, for instance. It helps to -image religiously after every patch. Text updates get mashed in anywhere, I've found Nightfall stuff as early as file #32000 in my dat.

MithranArkanere · Jan 25, 2008, 12:00 PM // 12:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longasc

How many different GWDatBrowsers are out there actually?

Because mine is rather clumsy - I basically click randomly on things and see a preview window or text pop up. Not really possible to find new stuff with this method.

All I can say is that if you google the names of the 'creators' (Irina, BoyC and Blackdragon) you get to here:
http://forum.xentax.com/viewtopic.ph...22c8dd56e6d2a4
(I apologice if I can't post this link, I've seen nothing agaist it in the rules)

Irina made the GUI, and BoyC and Blackdragon the code to 'read' the gw.dat.

It seems that the last version has a problem reading the Windows Registry in some computers, though...

IrinaBertram · Jan 25, 2008, 12:33 PM // 12:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longasc

How many different GWDatBrowsers are out there actually?

Because mine is rather clumsy - I basically click randomly on things and see a preview window or text pop up. Not really possible to find new stuff with this method.

There really should be only 1 version of it (at http://www.raechaer.de/GWDat_002.zip) since I asked people not to distribute modified versions of it without notifying me.

And yes, it is kinda clumsy, because there isn't really any structure in the GW.dat (at least as far as we know) and the GWDatBrowser is more or less just a proof of concept, it never was meant as an application for the regular GW players.

CassiusDrehyg · Jan 25, 2008, 04:12 PM // 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phaern Majes

Not sure if anyone else posted it but it looks a lot like Nundu Bay to me.

That, my friend, is the original incarnation of RA, back before the Battle Isles were introduced into the game.

Curse You · Jan 25, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by CassiusDrehyg

That, my friend, is the original incarnation of RA, back before the Battle Isles were introduced into the game.

No it isn't. I know what the old RA looked like and that's not it.

Does not look like any part of,

MithranArkanere · Jan 25, 2008, 05:32 PM // 17:32

Yah, you can see a boat, too.

But where's the small isle? And the brownish terrain?
I've been looking in all the Outpost pictures of Kryta, maguuma, Kourna and the Battle isles in the wiki.

Nothing.

That thing must be either very old or very new.

sanderevers · Jan 25, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58

It is there, in the sea near Lion's Arch.

Hunmassiv · Jan 25, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/D%27Alessio_Arena

MithranArkanere · Jan 25, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09

XDD We are talking about the Outpost description picture, not the mission map picture, XDD

Antheus · Jan 25, 2008, 06:11 PM // 18:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longasc

How many different GWDatBrowsers are out there actually?

Because mine is rather clumsy - I basically click randomly on things and see a preview window or text pop up. Not really possible to find new stuff with this method.

Since it comes with source, anyone can compile their own version.

Hole Sale Traps · Jan 25, 2008, 07:43 PM // 19:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by HawkofStorms

Interesting. That "Last Stand" skill in the uncatagorical section seems to be what kicks in whenever a mission is completed and right before the cutscene loads (so you don't die right after beating the mission, but before it technically "ends").

"Headshot!" Shout. For 0...0...0 seconds, the next attack by each nearby ally is a critical hit. (Nightfall)

Lawl

aus36 · Jan 25, 2008, 08:02 PM // 20:02

I had an old gw.dat on my work computer that i was taking a look at just now where i found this image.

These are all the icons for the guild services. That second one to the right on the top row - doesn't it kind of resemble a Vault door? Total conjecture here, but perhaps guild storage was closer than we thought?

But at the same time, there's no festival hat maker, emblemer or ambassador (which were added on December 7th) so this is a probably obsolete image. It looks like it may be an icon for a feature that was once considered, art was drawn up for it, and then it was not brought live when they couldn't make it work properly.

aus

stretchs · Jan 25, 2008, 08:43 PM // 20:43

rutrow, here comes the claws.

I would definitely be interested in having a version of the dat that does the dump and compare like Antigorgo(?sp sorry if i butchered) has. As digging through it blindly is a bit tedious.

Xx_Sorin_xX · Jan 25, 2008, 09:16 PM // 21:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curse You

Thank you for posting where I got the image from... Try reading my post next time.

lol you should have probably clarified that was the outpost for RA long ago. before it was called RA. and your right, that picture is NOT of the old RA outpost. it didn't look like that.

Shawn The Divine · Jan 25, 2008, 09:32 PM // 21:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xx_Sorin_xX

lol you should have probably clarified that was the outpost for RA long ago. before it was called RA. and your right, that picture is NOT of the old RA outpost. it didn't look like that.

It was called Competition Arenas, and yes that picture IS of the old outpost. To be specific the upper left section of that picture is the outpost.

Antheus · Jan 25, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by stretchs

I would definitely be interested in having a version of the dat that does the dump and compare like Antigorgo(?sp sorry if i butchered) has. As digging through it blindly is a bit tedious.

Here's the problem - the version someone sends to you could be keylogger.

GWDatBrowser comes with source. As such, whatever someone compiles and provides in exe form can be anything. Keylogger, trojan, you name it.

This is why people *should* be reluctant to accept it in compiled form.

Free Runner · Jan 25, 2008, 11:52 PM // 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shawn The Divine

It was called Competition Arenas, and yes that picture IS of the old outpost. To be specific the upper left section of that picture is the outpost.

That thing in the upper left section is the boat. That picture is not from any part of the CA island. All it had was a small beach, a boat and a pond with a shark creature swimming around.

RotteN · Jan 26, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Free Runner

That thing in the upper left section is the boat. That picture is not from any part of the CA island. All it had was a small beach, a boat and a pond with a shark creature swimming around.

The outpost part of that map is the top left part : the boat and the land just infront of it. Then there's a small "river" seperating it from the actual arena, where the fights were held (which is still one of the maps in rotation).

The old Competition Outpost and the arena map are one and the same. Actually, way back, every arena had it's own outpost and purpose. Was something like :
Ascalon Arena: 4v4 random arena
Shiverpeak Arena: 4v4 random arena
D'Alessio Arena: 6v6 random arena
Fort Koga : 4v4 random arena
Amnoon Arena: 6v6 team arena
Deldrimor Arena: 4v4 team arena

later on they just merged the bunch of maps into competition arena and kept drok's as team arena